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Pentax Forums 在 CP+ 2012 期間訪問產品規劃主管 Hiraku Kawauchi 訪談錄 [複製連結]

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轉自 Pentax Forums

扣除一些 K-01 的設計理念問題,大家比較有興趣的內容摘要大概是:
1. 新的鏡頭規劃圖出來了,但是最有可能先上市的是 DA560。
2. 雖然 DA50 也公開了,不過 FA50 仍會繼續生產。
3. DA 560 不是 FF 鏡頭。
4. K-01 因為工業設計及產品定位因素,不會有 Q 般電子觀景窗;但光學觀景窗仍被認為是拿 DLSR 的浪漫,所以後續的旗艦機種仍會保有光學觀景窗的。
5. O-GPS1 將支援 K-01,不過星軌追蹤要待後續韌體更新之後才會支援。
6. K-01 將不會像 K-r 般多彩多姿,因為 K-01 特別強調工業設計及外觀色彩的和諧性,所以目前沒有生產其他顏色的計畫(可能是尊重 Marc Newson 的關係)。
7. Pentax 著重在“其他人不搞的區塊”,為得是要讓產品“獨特”,過去是,未來也是。
8. 身為產品規劃經理的職位,只能說目前沒有 FF 的產品規劃。
9. 秘密研發的東西不會告訴你。
10. 因為日本 Pentax 已經沒有生產設施,所以相關產品生產不會移回日本。
11. 目前沒有 DA*16-50 MkII 的規劃,但在新的鏡頭規劃圖上面有個更廣的變焦鏡,大家可以推測那個將取代 DA*16-50。
12. 未來鏡頭採用 DC 還是 SDM 馬達,還要看成本及設計。

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Post by e1guapo;1024790
轉自 Pentax Forums (http://www.youtube.com/watch?fea ... d&v=PP-t4ODEqbs)

7. Pentax 著重在“其他人不搞的區塊”,為得是要讓產品“獨特”,過去是,未來也是。
8. 身為產品規劃經理的職位,只能說目前沒有 FF 的產品規劃。
...

如果真的沒有出FF機種的規劃,那還真的是有點可惜~

其實我也是認為在C/N兩家的夾殺之下,Pentax 推出 FF DSLR 不會是明智之舉
不過FF EVIL機倒是可以考慮一下:
1.市場上還沒有人作,也不違反第七點(旁軸相機另當別論)
2.K01機身報價可以定在USD749,FF EVIL壓在USD1500內也不是不可能,價格有優勢
3.有些K接環鏡頭可以直接用

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感謝分享及翻譯...我喜歡第7點,也期待PENTAX會越來越好,銷售越來越高...

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小弟跟朋友野人獻曝做個翻譯,有錯還請指正
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Hiraku Kawauchi
Manager
Product planning group
Pentax Marketing department
日本Pentax 市調部產品企劃組經理

  • Q:
    The K-01, which is a great new camera, is the first APS-C camera for Pentax without a mirror, and we hope it represents a whole new chapter in Pentax camera development.

    問:
    K-01是一部很棒的新相機,也是Pentax第一部的無反光鏡機身。
    what does this camera mean to you and do you think mirrorless interchangeable lens cameras will define the future of the camera industry?
    對使用者來說我們希望它開啟了Pentax相機製造歷史上新的一頁。您覺得這部相機的推出對貴公司有何特殊意義以及您認為無反光鏡相機對未來相機產業的影響?
    A:
    First, regarding the K-01...

    答:
    首先,有關K-01....
    The concept is first of all about the design, industrial design. The objective was not to create a mirrorless (camera); rather the mirrorless architecture was adopted in order to attain greater flexibility.
    這是第一台以設計概念,尤其是工業設計為核心的相機。我們的初衷不是以做一台無反光鏡相機為出發點,而是利用無反光鏡的架構來讓我們在設計相機時獲得更大的彈性
    What we hope to achieve from the K-01 is not a very small, light mirrorless camera, rather it is to use the K-mount.
    而我們想借由K-01所展現的不是輕薄短小而是能夠延續使用K接環鏡頭的無反光鏡相機。
    This hasn't changed much, but it is a form within the mirrorless category.
    雖然在體積上面不夠輕巧,但是他仍屬於無反光鏡相機的範疇
    We think even if it may not become mainstream, this type of mirrorless could exist.
    我們認為即使這台相機無法成為主流,至少能在無反光鏡市場上占有一席之地

  • Q:
    The K-01 was launched with a stylish new 40mm lens which seems to be a must have for the camera.
    在K-01發表同時,我們也看到擁有獨特外型的新40mm鏡頭,這兩者的組合真是絕配。
    If you could choose any other current Pentax lens for your K-01, which one would you take and why?
    問:
    如果請您挑選另外一隻鏡頭來搭配K-01,您的選擇是?請您也說明理由
    A:
    For example, for shooting a movie, lens with a built-in motor like SDM makes extremely silent autofocus.

    答:
    舉例來說,如果是要拍攝動態影片的話,使用鏡身馬達的鏡頭(如SDM)就可以顯著的降低自動對焦時的馬達噪音.(這暗指K-01可以在拍攝中自動對焦!?? ;p)
    Possible Lens with enjoyable characteristics such as a fish eye lens, etc.
    或是使用極具特色的鏡頭,如魚眼等,可以呈獻有趣的畫面
    Since the K-01 features a larger APS-C sensor than the Q, telephoto lenses with autofocus, which could give you bokeh.
    加上K-01有比Q大的APS-C感光元件,自動對焦的望遠鏡頭可以給您美麗的散景
    Mirrorless from other manufacturers lose their balance when attached to telephoto lenses.
    其他廠牌的無反光鏡機身接上望遠鏡頭之後,便會有頭重身輕的違和感
    In contrast, the K-01 could be held steadily with extremely good balance since it is a normal K-body with a mirrorless design.
    反觀我們家的K-01卻不會有這種困擾,因為機身大小接近使用者習慣的DSLR,可以非常平穩握持。

  • Q:
    Alongside the K-01 announcement, we've noticed that you've also published a new lens roadmap and many of those lenses are available right now on display here at the show.
    Which one of these lenses do you believe to be the most exciting?

    問:
    我們發現貴公司在發表K-01時也一併公布了新的鏡頭產品計劃圖,在會場上也可以看到展示樣品。請問貴公司認為哪款鏡頭是最令用戶期待的呢?
    Are any of these lenses designed for K-01 apart from the 40mm you've shown us?
    除了新的40mm鏡頭,是否有其他專門為K-01設計的鏡頭呢?
    A:
    The most anticipated lens by Pentax users so far is the 560mm super telephoto lens.
    Although it is not a lens exclusive for K-01, we've announced it officially.

    答:
    我想560mm超望遠鏡頭應該是最受我們家使用者期待的鏡頭吧,雖然我們正式發佈時已經聲明不是專門為K-01設計的
    When talking about lens specially designed for K-01, there is also a prototype on display.The optics extends to the rear a little bit with this lens.
    關於專門為K-01設計的鏡頭,您可以在會場看到後玉凸出鏡身的那隻原型鏡
    I think it's a promising and interesting product for a K-mount mirrorless system.
    我覺得對K接環無反光鏡系統來說,這是顆非常有趣並有潛力大受歡迎的鏡頭

  • Q:
    Is the new DA 50mm f/1.8 going to be a replacement for the FA 50mm f/1.4, or are you going to have both on the market?

    問:
    DA50mm f/1.8會取代現有的FA50mm f/1.4的版本嗎?還是兩顆會一起銷售?
    A:
    The FA 50mm will be continued as it is.

    答:
    FA50mm會繼續生產
    The 50mm prototype shown has a whole new optical design.
    DA50mm f/1.8的樣品鏡是全新的光學設計
    When compared to the current 50mm, we aim for a reasonable price point.
    相較於FA50mm,我們將DA50mm定位在親民的價格
    We plan to sell both the FA 50mm f/1.4 and DA 50mm f/1.8 as different products.
    我們把FA50mm跟DA50mm定位成不同價格帶的產品

  • Q: Will the new DA 50mm f/1.8 feature quick-shift autofocus, or is this going to be similar to the DA 35mm f/2.4?
    問:
    新的DA50mm f1.8會有quick-shift自動對焦嗎? 還是會跟DA35mm f/2.4一樣
    A: I cannot talk about the detailed specs since they are not finalized. Considering the concept, we aim for a fast lens with a reasonable price, so expect what you've seen so far in similar lenses.
    答:
    我無法在此透露細節因為一切還未定案。不過您可以這樣想,既然我們定位這個鏡頭在親民的價位,您可以期待這顆鏡頭跟現在同等級鏡頭擁有類似的規格

  • Q:
    Is the new DA560mm super telephoto going to cover only the APS-C circle or is it going to be full-frame compatible?
    Is it an SDM lens?
    What details can you tell us about that lens?

    問:
    請問新的DA560mm超望遠在全幅上面會有成相圈嗎?
    會有SDM對焦馬達嗎?
    可以透露這隻鏡頭的一些細節嗎?
    A:
    The name DA implies that we are developing a product for covering the so-called APS-C format.

    答:
    他的名字有DA透露出我們在設計這隻鏡頭時,是以APS-C機身為念
    Although I cannot speak about the autofocus mechanism, obviously it would be difficult to operate a super telephoto lens with the motors utilized in our normal lenses.
    雖然我無法在此透露更多細節,不過很顯然一般鏡頭的對焦機構在這類超望遠鏡頭上可能會增加使用上的難度。四個小朋友兄的翻譯比較好:
    不過要用驅動一般鏡頭的對焦馬達來驅動這類超望遠鏡頭,很顯然是有難度的

  • Q:
    Do you know if it will be a KAF2 or KAF3 lens?

    問:
    那請問一下他會是KAF2還是KAF3接環呀?(裝傻)
    A:
    (laugh)Good question. That's a secret.

    答:
    (大笑)好問題,這是秘密

  • Q:
    Last year, the Pentax Q shipped with a removable viewfinder accessory. You also released a hotshoe mounted GPS module for the 645D, the K-5 and the K-r suggesting that the hosthoe is a highly extendible interface for camera accessories.

    問:
    去年,Pentax Q附贈了一個可拆卸的觀景窗配件,同時也推出了可以裝在645D/K-5/K-r熱靴上的GPS裝置,所以說熱靴似乎是一個非常實用的配件介面,來擴展相機的功能
    It seems like many users are discouraged by the lack of a viewfinder or an electronic viewfinder in the K-01. Is that something you would consider releasing as an external add-on in the future?
    從論壇上的反應來說,不少使用者因為沒有觀景窗而對K-01卻步,貴公司有意願考慮在未來為K-01推出類似的觀景窗配件嗎?
    Will the Q's optical viewfinder function on the K-01?
    Q的觀景窗配件可以用在K-01上嗎?
    If so, which lens would it correspond to?
    如果可以,請問哪一隻鏡頭可以跟它(觀景窗配件?)搭配
    A:
    An optical viewfinder will be quite meaningless since all of the K-mount lenses can be used.

    答:
    既然K-01可以使用所有的K接環鏡頭,光學觀景窗似乎沒有必要
    As you could see (in the K-01), an electronic interface for an EVF is not presented.
    而且如您所見,K-01上面沒有預留外接EVF的電子界面。
    The O-GPS1 GPS unit can be used with K-01.
    O-GPS1可以用在K-01上面
    Location information and the electronic compass can be used from the beginning, but it doesn't support the AstroTracer function at this time (at the moment). We do plan to support via future firmware update.
    不過目前僅支援定位資料跟電子羅盤的功能,追蹤星軌的功能將必須經由日後的韌體更新,才能使用(確定會加入)

  • Q:
    You launched the K-01 in three stylish colors. We asked our members which combination is their favorite color and more than half said they like black and silver the most.
    However, a large portion of people we polled answered they prefer the silver elements be replaced with black ones resulting in an all black camera. Will you be exploring additional color options for the K-01?

    問:
    貴公司提供了三種不同顏色的K-01,其中銀黑配色最受喜愛,不過有相當多人希望可以出全黑的,不知道貴公司未來是否會提供其他顏色的K-01呢?
    A:
    We're happy to hear about the high population of black since it was the initial design we received from Marc Newson.

    答:
    我們非常開心得知很多人喜歡全黑的,因為這其實是設計師一開始的想法
    Since color is a key element of the K-01 design, rather than just releasing more colors, the idea is to be in harmony with the camera's body design.
    既然色彩佔K-01設計裏很重要的一環,與其生產更多的顏色,我們的理念是維持配色與機身整體的和諧為優先
    Although we don't have plans to release color variations, if we do in the future, rather than just increasing the colors, we think it is important to best utilize the design of K-01 from Marc Newson.
    我們目前沒有生產更多配色的計畫。假使未來有增加配色的計畫,我們還是會以原設計師對機身的設計理念來做為提供顏色的依據而不是隨意增加配色

  • Q:
    With the launch of the Pentax K-01, Pentax now has almost every type of camera model covered, from entry-level point and shoot, to the stylish Q and finally to the APS-C DSLRs and professional 645D.

    問:
    隨著K-01的發佈, Pentax的產品線幾乎包含了所有的類型,從入門的數位相機,APS-C,到專業級的645D
    Now that Pentax Ricoh Imaging has assumed control of your entire imaging branch, will a special emphasis be placed on any of these?
    現在Pentax Ricoh Imaging已經完全接掌貴公司影像部門,請問未來會針對哪些個別的產品線做重點發展呢?
    A:
    We're not going to constrain our line up to anything.

    答:
    我們將不會對我們目前的產品自我設限
    We are going to focus on what others are not making.
    我們將會推出獨家特色的產品
    Where we could differentiate and give the originality of Pentax.
    真正保有Pentax 初衷並能夠研發鶴立雞群的商品
    From here on as well, we will focus on all rather than just one.
    在此前提下,我們希望我們所有的產品線都能與眾不同而非只專注於單一產品線。

  • Q:
    There has been a lot of discussion about a certain type of camera missing from your current lineup. Can you guess what kind of camera many Pentax users really want?

    問:
    有台相機,在Pentax產品中一直缺席卻持續引起熱烈討論,可以請您猜猜看這台Pentax用戶殷殷期盼的相機是哪一種規格嗎?
    A PFC-Pentax Fans Clublaugh)We continuously consider 35mm, but it has to be different from what other manufactures are releasing and lenses supporting 35mm have to be prepared.
    答:
    (笑)我們從未放棄35mm,但在此之前我們得找出不同於其他廠牌的賣點並準備好35mm專用的鏡頭群。
    we think these are the principle challenges.
    這些是目前我們遇到的基本挑戰
    So for example, even if we decide to make a full size DSLR in the future, we will release what is not available from the other makers.
    假設我們未來決定生產全幅相機,我們會發表一款絕無僅有的機身
    We cannot comment and we do not know when this will be
    目前我們無法對此做出評論也沒有時間表

  • Q:
    You're right, it is full-frame. Everybody is asking about full-frame of course. Pentax
    Forums.com started a fan page two months ago looking for support for full-frame and got about 1000 likes in a few weeks. Now there are 3200 likes from people demanding or wishing for a full-frame Pentax camera.
    沒錯,就是全幅相機。哪個用戶不想要本家的全幅相機呢?Pentax Forums兩個月前在facebook上面建了一個粉絲網頁呼籲想要全幅的用戶去按讚,結果短短數個星期,就有了一千個讚,截至訪問當時已經有三千兩百個讚了
    With the rising popularity of mirrorless camera, do you think that large and bulky DSLRs will dominate the professional market for much longer?
    問:
    在無反光鏡相機市占率日漸增加的現在,您認為笨重的DSLR是否能夠維持在專業用戶市場的地位呢?
    A: Although I am not the one who decides the market, I personally think that single lens reflex will prevail.
    答:
    雖然我無法代表整個市場,但我個人認為單眼反光鏡相機不會被取代。
    Although the EVF technology is developing rapidly, in order to capture shots at just the right moment, I think EVF is not a match for an optical finder.
    即使電子觀景窗的技術在這幾年進步神速。但要拍下用戶心目中那決定性的瞬間,我認為電子觀景窗還是無法跟光學觀景窗相提並論
    Holding current reflex cameras gives an exciting feeling that is essential for photographic style.
    拿著單眼反光鏡相機所給予大多數用戶那種興奮感應該還是攝影風格的要素(亂翻的)
    So, I think reflex cameras will continue to exist, and we will also continue producing them.
    所以我認為單眼反光鏡相機市場會持續存在,敝公司也會持續生產販售

  • Q:
    At CES, John Carlson of Pentax USA hinted that Pentax may be working on a mirrorless full-frame camera. Can you say anything about that?

    問:
    在CES(Consumer Electronic Show消費者電子產品展)中,Pentax美國廠的John Carlson曾經暗示Pentax可能正在研發無反光鏡全幅相機。請問您有何看法嗎?
    A: That was a dream expressed to the media by our developer of what Pentax could achieve, regardless of whether it's under development or not.
    答:
    不論這個消息是否屬實,這算是我們公司的研發者對公司的期許並對媒體所發表的評論
    I think it is an interesting idea.
    我認為這是個有趣的點子
    As the planning person, that is not under our current development roadmap.
    不過就我個人的職務所悉,這台相機不在我們目前的研發計畫中

  • Q:
    Pentax has a long history of impressive super telephotos such as the FA* 300mm f/2.8, FA* 250-600mm f/5.6.
    Pentax在製造超望遠鏡頭上有悠久且光榮的歷史,像是FA* 300mm f/2.8, FA*250-600mm f/5.6.
    Do you have any plans to reintroduce these lenses or updates of them?
    問:
    請問貴公司有任何重新生產這類經典鏡頭或是推出下一代的計畫嗎?
    A: Alongside the announcement of K-01, we have also updated the Lens roadmap. Recent plans for the launches could be seen there.
    答:
    我們在發表K-01的同時也發佈了我們的鏡頭研發計畫。
    We will release it in the Pentax homepage as well.
    近期的計畫都已經在上面了,我們也會同步發表在官網上

  • Q:
    There is always something secret somewhere...

    問:
    有沒有不在計畫上的祕密計劃呀....
    A: Of course there are things that are not on the roadmap.(laugh)
    答:
    天機不可洩漏呀(笑)

  • Q:
    Are you going to bring back any production to Japan?

    問:
    請問貴公司有計畫要在日本本土重新開生產線嗎?
    A:Since the factories in Japan have no facilities, presently we have no plan to move the production back.
    答:
    目前在日本的工廠都沒有相關的生產設備,所以我們目前沒有打算把生產線移回日本

  • Q:
    Are there going to be any updates to any of the DA* lenses? Maybe a 16-50mm versionII anytime soon?

    問:
    最近會有任何的DA星鏡二代發表嗎?像是DA*16-50mm這隻?
    A:If you look at the roadmap, there is a lens with a shorter focal. So, I think you could assume we are considering a replacement for the 16-50mm.
    答:
    您應該會發現在鏡頭的開發計畫圖上有隻短變焦,所以我覺得你可以說我們正考慮研發一款可以取代DA*16-50mm的新鏡頭

  • Q:
    How does the technology in DC lenses differ from SDM lenses?

    問:
    請問DC馬達跟SDM馬達在技術上有何差異?
    There is only one DC lens currently available, do you have any plans for using that technology in future lenses?
    現在市面上只有一隻DC馬達鏡頭,貴公司有考慮研發更多的DC馬達鏡頭嗎?
    A:
    I think models with built-in motors will be on rise.

    答:
    我認為內建對焦馬達的鏡頭會越來越多。
    Though SDM and DC motors each have their own strength, since all cost has to be taken to the consideration, we need to apply the technologies depending on the lenses.
    雖然SDM跟DC馬達各有千秋,我們還是必須考慮所有的開發成本,依照鏡頭特性來決定使用哪一種馬達。

  • Q:
    Do you have anything you want to say to the Pentax community?

    問:
    最後您有什麼話要對用戶們說的呢?
    A:Thanks for coming all the way to Japan to cover our booth. We are so glad to know of the enormous number of Pentax fans.
    答:
    首先非常感謝您們遠道日本來採訪我們的攤位!我們非常開心得知在美國有如此眾多的用戶!
    We have taken new step forward last year by becoming Pentax Ricoh Imaging.
    去年我們更上層樓地成為了Pentax Ricoh Imaging
    This year though, we have announced the unique K-01.
    今年我們則發佈了前無古人的K-01
    Besides continuing to make unique products distinct from other manufactures, we will make Pentax-like unique, Pentax-like well-made products.
    今後我們除了繼續以發開其他廠牌沒有的產品來做區隔,也會秉持我們家一貫的紮實做工來製作Pentax特有風格的產品。
    So, we would like to assert earnest Pentax and the unique Pentax are the same.
    所以我們認為最純粹的Pentax精神就是讓Pentax跟別人不一樣的地方
    So we will be thankful to listen your thoughts and we are hoping to release products to meet your expectations.
    我們會繼續秉持感恩的心情傾聽用戶的意見並期待發表讓各位滿意的產品
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發表於 2012-2-21 21:51:20 |顯示全部樓層 | 字體大小
Post by souless;1024971

Although I cannot speak about the autofocus mechanism, obviously it would be difficult to operate a super telephoto lens with the motors utilized in our normal lenses.

    雖然我無法在此透露更多細節,不過很顯然一般鏡頭的對焦機構在這類超望遠鏡頭上可能會增加使用上的難度。...


後半段應該是說:『不過要用驅動一般鏡頭的對焦馬達來驅動這類超望遠鏡頭,很顯然是有難度的。』
意思就是一定會有鏡身馬達啦!

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Post by 四個小朋友;1025001
後半段應該是說:『不過要用驅動一般鏡頭的對焦馬達來驅動這類超望遠鏡頭,很顯然是有難度的。』
意思就是一定會有鏡身馬達啦!
哈哈盡在不言中啦,如果是真的,這樣舊機身就不能用了
您的翻譯比較好,借小弟用一下PFC-Pentax Fans Club,謝謝
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感謝S大與四大的翻譯 與E大的訊息

另外 我發覺我LAG了
"那請問一下他會是KAF2還是KAF3接環呀?"
這兩個接環是啥東東? 差在哪?

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Post by financ2006;1025039
感謝S大與四大的翻譯 與E大的訊息

另外 我發覺我LAG了
"那請問一下他會是KAF2還是KAF3接環呀?"
這兩個接環是啥東東? 差在哪?
根據這串討論
KAF2是一般機身馬達+支援powerZoom
KAF3是只支援鏡身馬達(SDM或DC)
應該沒記錯吧PFC-Pentax Fans Club
K-5, K-r, K-7, K-x, K-m, K20D, K200D, K100D Super and K10D才有支援KAF3
來自PentaxForums
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Post by souless;1025081
根據這串討論 ("http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1036&message=29674765")
KAF2是一般機身馬達+支援powerZoom
KAF3是只支援鏡身馬達(SDM或DC)
應該沒記錯吧PFC-Pentax Fans Club
K-5, K-r, K-7, K-x, K-m, K20D, K200D, K100D Super and K10D才有支援KAF3
來自PentaxForums (http://www.pentaxforums.com/lensreviews/SMC-Pentax-DA-18-135mm-F3...
懂了!

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這篇好讚喔!!!推一下!!!

總之K-01我是買定了,哈哈
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