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FA28~70mm/F2.8 AL 請問這個鏡頭的價值 [複製連結]

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PNETAX FA28-70mm/F2.8
這支光圈跟焦段小弟真的覺得很不錯
但是這支會不會賣的貴了點?
看了一下問與答看來真的有這價值
請問誰有這支鏡頭的詳細資料呢?

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個人覺得有點貴....再忍一下吧!

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發表於 2008-2-23 02:33:12 |顯示全部樓層 | 字體大小
Post by shiro;416656
PNETAX FA28-70mm/F2.8
這支光圈跟焦段小弟真的覺得很不錯
但是這支會不會賣的貴了點?
看了一下問與答看來真的有這價值
請問誰有這支鏡頭的詳細資料呢?
http://tw.f4.page.bid.yahoo.com/tw/auction/d23840365?u=james10270...



FA--SMC PENTAX-FA★ 1:2.8 28-70mm AL.....PENTAX銘鏡之一.

http://www.bdimitrov.de/kmp/lenses/zooms/short/FA28-70f2.8.html

在我的2006年尾~2007年初 台日二手市場Pentax鏡頭參考價中,如果品相如賣家所言,則他出的售價尚在合理價位!! 但還是要面交驗鏡為宜!!

圖片:
http://www.pbase.com/cameras/pentax/smc_pfa_28-70_28_al



28-70 mm f/2.8 FA* AL (p)
http://stans-photography.info/Introduction.shtml

評述:
Phil - Sep 1997 - I'm in the market for a short zoom lens and I think I want the FA 28-70/2.8 AL. There has been a lot of talk about the FA 28-70/4.0 AL of late and I was wondering if someone could give me an opinion on which lens was optically better and a little info on build qualty. I have a FA 80-200/2.8 ED(IF) and want a lens with the same kind of qualty. . . . Is the 2.8 lens an (IF) lens? . . .

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Darren Sutherland. . . the FA* 28-70 f2.8 AL has not gotten the same super-favorable reviews that your FA* 80-200 f2.8 EDIF has gotten. It is NOT an internal focusing lens, therefore, the lens barrel rotates when focusing. . . there seems to be only one or two bad reports.

The FA28-70 f4.0 AL is a decent lens for it's price. It is fairly sharp and will do the job quite nicely. There are many on this list who own one (including me) and I haven't heard any bad reports. . . .

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Pascal De Pauw - One of the best zooms of it's class.

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Steve Graham - I was quite happy with the SMC-FA 28-80 though, it's really not that bad. (I was actually quite happy with my results from the SMC-FA 100-300 as well). . . The FA* 28-70 is optically a superb lens.. probably the only one of the current consumer spec pentax short zooms which is optically significantly superior to the SMC-FA 28-200

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Mafud - A Cracker Jack lens . . . Buy it, even if you have to drive a Taxi at night to get the money. You'll never regret it. When you really want to impress a bunch of fellow shooters out on a birding or Butterfly jaunt, show up with it wearing that big OEM lens shade. You'll hear the Gomer Pyles say: "Gollly-lee! What's THAT!?" It does remind one of the muzzle brake on a 106mm recoilless rifle.

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Bob Harris - The only times I have regretted it have been when I have carried it around all day. Weighs a ton, and I now mostly carry the 28-70 f4.0 instead.

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Phil - I've owned and used the FA 28-70/f2.8 lens for a little over two years and find it to be great. There has been many a discussion about the build quality of this lens and although some have said they feel it is not the best built Pentax lens, I am of the opinion that it has a very good buildquality. I've put this lens through it's paces many times and it always stood up to the conditions and delivered good pictures. I've used it to photograph sports; I've used it on the beach; I've used it at the zoo; I've used it on vacations. I've used it on my PZ-70; I've used it on my PZ-1p and never had a disappointing result. I would highly recommend this lens to anyone who is interested in taking sharp pictures. The only drawback to this lens is that it is a bit heavy.

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Pål - A zoom lens that can cure zoom lens scepticism. Very sharp except wide open in the telephoto range.

[but, after further experience, Pål added the following . . .]

In my opinion (I know many would disagree and have had no problems) this is the one Pentax lens that should never have been made. Its very delicate lens and quality of construction is compromised. This is for two reasons: 1) Power zoom and 2) auto focus. Normally, these feature shouldn't be disastrous in themselves but some smart bean counter at Pentax figured out that they wouldn't cost inner focusing on this lens. As a result, focusing is done by moving the whole front tube of the lens. Because there is so much to move, the front lens tube is made of plastic to save weight. This means also plastic filter thread. It also means a rotating front element and filter thread something thats a pain in the ass when using Cokin filter system and polarizers. It also means that the power zoom has to move all elements and lens tubes something in most cases don't manage if not the lens is pointed downwards and thereby get help from gravity. Many samples (most?) are unable to power zoom past the 35mm setting.

My lens in particular had constant recurring problems; 1) the zoom scale window was loose (of course). 2) The button for powerzoom got stuck in the "in" position. This needed to be repared (several times - I believe three or four - actually the lens needs to be sent to Belgium because most Pentax centers can't repair it, or more correctly; can't open it. Its too complicated). 3) The lens refused to stop down atomatically during exposure. 4) Power zoom may stop completely after using it a few times. Then it worked again after the lens "rested" for about one hour (actually this freak sympthom was disbelieved by the repairman. After he managed to induce the same behaviour after testing it, he was completely astonished - solution to this mystery below). These problems were never fixed. That is, they were fixed but keept on comping back.

(Alexander asked: If someone stole the lens would you purchase another one?)

Pål - Are you Joking! After two years I threw mine literally in the garbage.

Before throwing it away I dissasembled it. I finally found out why they (Belgium) never were able to fix it. It was designed in a way that auto stopdown and power zoom couldn't work simultaneously. You have to choose one or the other. I found out that the power zoom contacts touched the aperture mechanism so that it prevented the lens to stop down by the spring action. If you bent the power zoom contacts away from the aperture mechanism then they wouldn't couple to the power zoom contacts on the lens mount then giving no electricity to the lens.

I'm sure some people are happy with it. However, you wanted real field experience; here is mine. Oh..its great optically...

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tv - the usual conclusion reached is that it's optically excellent, mechanically so-so. . . Mine was owned by a sports photographer before I got it, and was fairly well beat up. It's a bit loose, but it works fine and produces excellent images.

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Cameron - I have owned this lens for four years now, and have been a professional for the last year, and I have never had any of the build quality qualms that others have talked about, and I bought it used. It is as sharp or sharper than most good primes, has wonderful colour definition and contrast, and is my 'normal' lens, always on my camera. My one complaint about it is that the filter holder rotates during focus, making polarization a little more difficult; but, the hood is large enough that you can rotate the filter without removing the hood, something that you cannot do with the mighty FA* 85mm f=1.4 that everybody raves about (which I also own and rave about). A magnificent lens, but the hood sucks; you cannot put the lens cap on when the hood is in place (well, you can, but it is very dicey and you risk scratching the front element), and although it is internal focussing, you have to remove the hood to rotate the polarizer initially, negating the point of internal focussing. So, in this respect, I have absolutely no qualms about recommending the 28-70 2.8, and I love the powerzoom feature in my newfound profession of pet photographer.

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Pål - The lens is NOT internal focusing

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[Cameron again, this time via the Web auto-response form. . .] Superb optically, lovely for portraits at 70mm 2.8; powerzoom feature is very handy for pets/sports/action photography. The much heard of commplaint of the powerzoom clutch causing problems has only occured once on my lens, and disappeared soon after a good cleaning; probably sand or some other crud got in there. Good close focusing, I have even used it with reverse adapters and extension tubes for macro stuff. Although it is pricey, once you sample FA* glass, you will never go back to regular stuff.

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Alexander Grigolia - I've only had the FA* 28-70mm zoom for a few weeks but I love it. . . If you like compact Pentax 35mm lenses this zoom might seem "heavy" at first. But as I've used the Pentax 67 II the lens seemed "light." The lens balances perfectly on the PZ-1p so after a few rolls you shouldn't notice the weight. And the build quality is superior to my 43mm 'Limited' lens. I never use either the auto focus or auto zoom capabilities. (Ok, I admit it, I'm a manual snob.) Operating the lens manually is quick and easy even in low light The negatives are sharp and crisp. 8x10 prints are not quite as sharp as prints made from my FA* 24mm prime lens, but are sharper than any zoom I've tried. For general photography this zoom will be my lens of choice. If I have the time and desire for a fine print I'll switch to my FA* prime lenses & a sturdy tripod!


以上提供您參考!!

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92年在大華買了一隻22000
現在賣可以賺一筆囉
哈哈
但還不想賣
不過星鏡漲了不少,28-70/2.8好像算少的

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Post by syr1010;416732
92年在大華買了一隻22000
現在賣可以賺一筆囉
哈哈
但還不想賣
不過星鏡漲了不少,28-70/2.8好像算少的

原來那隻被您買走...當初有在考慮要下手結果跑去買645的鏡頭PFC-Pentax Fans Club
其實現在也不後悔啦...
因為SLR轉NIKON系統,原因沒它鏡頭有太多選擇了(奸笑)
不像P家不錯鏡頭一出現,就像過往雲煙,一下就消失了
要不價格如此高攀不起
但值不值這價值就看個人
Y拍的那隻個人是覺的高了點,要不怎會還掛在上面(像星星)
我猜底下應該有一群兇猛的鯊魚在等吧PFC-Pentax Fans Club哈!

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Post by masi0503;416745
原來那隻被您買走...當初有在考慮要下手結果跑去買645的鏡頭PFC-Pentax Fans Club
其實現在也不後悔啦...
因為SLR轉NIKON系統,原因沒它鏡頭有太多選擇了(奸笑)
不像P家不錯鏡頭一出現,就像過往雲煙,一下就消失了
要不價格如此高攀不起
但值不值這價值就看個人
Y拍的那隻個人是覺的高了點,要不怎會還掛在...

想起兩年前,有人28-70 85可以一起賣我,這支賣25k
不知道那時在龜什麼只買了85
應該咬牙全收的:D

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發表於 2008-2-23 12:02:38 |顯示全部樓層 | 字體大小
這樣好像勾起很多人傷心的往事...哈
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發表於 2008-6-29 17:13:36 |顯示全部樓層 | 字體大小
如果有人以人民幣開價,換算成台幣約四萬三
值不值的買呢?
我有點認真的考慮想買這顆鏡頭
K7/DA15/FA31/FA43/DA70/DA18-55II/DA16-50/DA50-135/Tamron 18-250

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發表於 2008-6-29 17:53:53 |顯示全部樓層 | 字體大小
這顆在底片真的沒話說,

但用在數位上稍嫌廣角端不廣,

還是建議上DA*16-50/f2.8,

至於這個價位貴太多了,

二萬五至三萬五是比較合理的價位(在台灣)。

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PFC真是讓人增廣見聞
不過看了價錢真是讓我下一跳
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